Subject	Extra power and response, which are definitely significant
Posted by	Russell@Z1 on June 23, 2006 at 12:00 AM
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In Reply To	explain "inherent benefits" posted by Spee on June 22, 2006 at 11:46 PM
Message	The stock fan puts a substantial amount of drag on the engine. Slow down though, I'm not really going out of my way to defend them. We don't even recommend them to customers who are getting builds here at Z1 but once in a blue moon. Sometimes it can be justified, but for now most of the time it can't. We do some cars where upon request we take out the complete AC system, upgrade the radiator, etc. We have suscceded in making "some" cars run cool enough even under extreme conditions. Right now it's definitely not for everyone. Russell Floyd Z1 Motorsports www.300zx.com 1990+ Nissan Z specialists Used Parts, New parts, Service/Repair and Performance 2877 Carrollton Villa Rica Hwy Carrollton, Ga 30116 770-838-7777 770-832-9253 (fax)
Follow Ups	Debating between sticking with the clutch fan or electric - TTFairladyZ 22:12:25 06/22/06 stick with the fan clutch (n/m) - Guapo 22:13:56 06/22/06 2nd (n/m) - aliaZ 22:33:30 06/22/06 Re: 2nd - ouikikazz 22:39:13 06/22/06 nobody has really perfected the electric fan setup yet - 93silverTT 22:42:06 06/22/06 I have not seen one post where someone had an issue - The Devils Z 23:07:48 06/22/06 well ... even ash noted that the car runs warmer - Guapo 23:15:56 06/22/06 Its just a trade-off. I agree, inferior if it can't keep a - Russell@Z1 23:32:12 06/22/06 Thats a lot of if's. Even the stock system tends to - Guapo 23:42:56 06/22/06 explain "inherent benefits" - Spee 23:46:54 06/22/06 Extra power and response, which are definitely significant - Russell@Z1 00:00:17 06/23/06 How significant? - Spee 00:12:05 06/23/06 some data >> - ztunerz 00:29:02 06/23/06 Ford fan..... - Woody75 (Denver) 10:13:27 06/23/06 Re: explain "inherent benefits" - Turbodog (CT) 18:20:16 06/23/06 Have you looked at OEM fan/shroud setups? My - AzHeat 00:51:30 06/23/06 what does that have to do with the Z32? (n/m) - Spee 01:02:01 06/23/06 You can use parts that are OEM on other cars on Z32 if - AzHeat 10:22:09 06/23/06 Does your GS400 make 600hp and vent into an inferno - CaliguyPurdue 10:50:26 06/23/06 Its a V8 300HP with full AC. People who are running - AzHeat 12:35:09 06/23/06 Don't waste your time. - Spongerider :) 15:31:39 06/23/06 ROFL, Yes, everyone who had problems with electric - AzHeat 18:05:41 06/23/06 Re: I have not seen one post where someone had an issue - Russell@Z1 23:20:30 06/22/06 "so my thoughts are worthless." - The Devils Z 00:07:48 - Spee 23:44:29 06/22/06 Bookmark this and give it time - SeedyROM 01:53:20 06/23/06 ditto (n/m) - The Devils Z 13:15:58 06/23/06 That didn't take long did it? Here you go>>> - SeedyROM 13:41:15 06/23/06 No argument here from me -- I actually agreed with your - The Devils Z 14:26:47 06/23/06 Just in case you missed this one - dogpile 07:52:06 06/23/06 maybe I just don't hear enough good reviews then - 93silverTT 07:59:44 06/23/06 Ash had problems with the testing of his electric water - The Devils Z 08:14:10 06/23/06 lol - Spee 09:35:18 06/23/06 So the fix for a subpar pump is a subpar fan? (n/m) - Kenny 09:36:46 06/23/06 My only point was that there was "to my knowledge" no issues - The Devils Z 10:40:07 06/23/06 So your point was "I don't know what I'm talking about." - Kenny 11:17:24 06/23/06 Reading comprehension owns you ... I was correcting - The Devils Z 11:43:25 06/23/06 what is this event in Connecticut you keep mentioning? - Spee 12:01:12 06/23/06 lol (n/m) - The Devils Z 12:18:04 06/23/06 Not to jump into this battle, but - TT XTZ 13:23:16 06/23/06 Regardless of what "stories" are circulating by the .. - The Devils Z 14:14:07 06/23/06 The only "stories" that aren't adding up are yours and Ash's (n/m) - Kenny 14:52:21 06/23/06 Re: Regardless of what "stories" are circulating by the .. - Guapo 14:54:22 06/23/06 dude, The Connecticut thing was hilarious... - Spee 15:38:18 06/23/06 ZCONN ... it's intentional ... (n/m) - The Devils Z 17:18:06 06/23/06 please tell me why. - Spee 18:21:03 06/23/06 I fat fingered it the first few times .. after the first few - The Devils Z 19:58:05 06/23/06 heh, nice try. Fat fingered would be ZCONB or ZCOMN. - Spee 21:26:56 06/23/06 Yourn rightn onn then "fatn fingern" terminologyn" ... - The Devils Z 21:48:26 06/23/06 Right, Ash himself said he had cooling issues. (n/m) - Kenny 13:44:57 06/23/06 Websters: cooling issues does not 100% mean fan issues - The Devils Z 14:15:42 06/23/06 Uh, there are no "stories circulating." - Kenny 14:50:18 06/23/06 This is 100% true (n/m) - The Devils Z 15:12:19 06/23/06 hmm ... - Guapo 11:37:49 06/23/06 The higher rated fan went on in TX .. the electric - The Devils Z 11:56:06 06/23/06 That's not what Ash told me at ZCon. - Guapo 12:05:35 06/23/06 I was in the car ..we didn't run hot --or maybe my - The Devils Z 12:16:21 06/23/06 I wasn't in the car. I'm only going by what Ash told me. - Guapo 12:25:38 06/23/06 To summarize I am saying this - which are my known - The Devils Z 13:03:08 06/23/06 Then I don't know why on Monday night he told me he had - Guapo 13:22:17 06/23/06 There are no stories - I know that the fan was put on - The Devils Z 13:58:01 06/23/06 Hey don't get defensive on me. I'm just going by what - Guapo 14:45:23 06/23/06 Guapo - I have no issues with you so chill out ... - The Devils Z 15:11:19 06/23/06 cool as a cucumber 8-) (n/m) - Guapo 15:12:40 06/23/06 lol - Spee 11:55:22 06/23/06 I wouldn't consider DaytonaZ's results "good" - aliaZ 08:16:24 06/23/06 He's also running the 4k fan which was for fmic users. (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 10:08:23 06/23/06 Why are you not running Ash's fan? (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 09:20:08 06/23/06 wondering that myself... (n/m) - myzislow 10:51:44 06/23/06 if you are referring to me --- I was getting some work - The Devils Z 13:13:23 06/23/06 From the posts I've read - Black95 22:49:31 06/22/06 Stick with the stock clutch and fan. - Spee 23:41:54 06/22/06 Thats why I was trying to get a feel for everybodys opinions - TTFairladyZ 23:53:18 06/22/06 cool. good call. (n/m) - Spee 23:59:50 06/22/06 electric always did it for me.... but what do I know? (n/m) - chris@boostpro.net 23:46:27 06/22/06 don't ask questions you don't want to hear the answers to. (n/m) - Spee 23:58:17 06/22/06 not much - aliaZ 23:59:31 06/22/06 you would be suprised.... (n/m) - Initial Z 00:48:19 06/23/06 No, it gets very warm and humid in the summer... - myzislow 10:58:03 06/23/06 and thah mowsquitow is thah state berd, donchano? (n/m) - Guapo 11:11:09 06/23/06 oh ya you betcha donchaknow - myzislow 11:21:05 06/23/06 lmao (n/m) - ENVYMYZ 13:31:41 06/23/06 Very little. (n/m) - Kenny 00:17:12 06/23/06 Speak for yourself. We have had 110+ degree weather in AZ (n/m) - AzHeat 00:41:26 06/23/06 Stock clutch and fan have the best cooling capacity. - Kenny 00:18:00 06/23/06 Is it not true that at highway speeds, aka 45 and above - upcominZ_(NOLA) 00:21:01 06/23/06 That's an oversimplification. - Kenny 00:44:11 06/23/06 I thought you need 600HP to overheat LOL! (n/m) - AzHeat 18:08:00 06/23/06 It becomes a bigger problem with that much power... - Kenny 22:49:38 06/23/06 False. - ENVYMYZ 13:35:20 06/23/06 I would go with electric fan if your motor has all the - Z-Roc@Houston 00:20:54 06/23/06 You should put an exhaust pipe in your car and use it - upcominZ_(NOLA) 00:24:41 06/23/06 cool air coming out of your exahsut? ROFL (n/m) - Spee 00:30:38 06/23/06 lol? - aliaZ 00:36:42 06/23/06 lol (n/m) - Kenny 00:49:29 06/23/06 LMFAO- cool air out of the exaust? LOL LOL LOL (n/m) - Jay(So Cal) 00:53:25 06/23/06 ur z looks very interesting, id like to see more pics? (n/m) - dirtyjerZ 01:25:38 06/23/06 My exhaust is hot. Is that a problem? (n/m) - EricTTZ 01:26:03 06/23/06 As long as its under room temp, your good. (n/m) - SnowManZ 05:34:08 06/23/06 Electric fan is fine when you run it with engine shut off. (n/m) - AzHeat 18:06:42 06/23/06 nice school bus tail lights (n/m) - spyhunterTT(nj) 06:42:16 06/23/06 i will not go against all this experience, but do test the - davidztt 00:41:21 06/23/06 Going back to fan clutch after years of being pro-electric - SeedyROM 01:51:46 06/23/06 I had Ash's electric fan setup and it didn't do too good - samztt 05:15:41 06/23/06 Thanks for the report. I wondered how it would - AzHeat 10:24:30 06/23/06 Stay stock. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 08:13:35 06/23/06 I went back to stock after 3 days of the electric (n/m) - dvlhntr 08:36:03 06/23/06 I'm very happy with mine, agreed though must have supporting - Turbodog (CT) 18:07:11 06/23/06 whats strange is that its working with some setups and - The Devils Z 19:59:56 06/23/06
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